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ebby
10-04-2012, 12:38 PM
Starting a thread to gather coming out stories as I'm quite a fan of famous folk of all kinds coming out, to help raise visibility of lgbt people from all walks of life.

Like, there is now an out gay male boxer. Awesome. Sports players of all kinds coming out really has such a major impact, especially in overtly macho sports like rugby, boxing, and the like.

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/orlando-cruz-becomes-first-openly-gay-pro-boxer041012



A featherweight Puerto Rico boxer has claimed to be the first openly gay man to come out and continue competing in the professional sport’s history.

Orlando Cruz, ranked the number four featherweight by the World Boxing Organization, said: ‘I’ve been fighting for more than 24 years and as I continue my ascendant career, I want to be true to myself.

‘I want to try to be the best role model I can be for kids who might look into boxing as a sport and a professional career.

‘I have and will always be a proud Puerto Rican. I have always been and always will be a proud gay man.’

The 31-year-old sports star began boxing at age seven, when his amateur career peaked in his selection to the 2000 Puerto Rican Olympic Team in Sydney.

Cruz debuted as a professional in 2000 and won his first minor world title in 2008.

American Emile Griffith, a middleweight world champion who fought in the 50s and 60s, came out as bisexual after his career had ended.

And in the UK, Charles ‘Pink Pounder’ Jones became the first openly gay man to compete in white-collar boxing, an alternative to the amateur and professional sport where office workers train for special events.

Cruz’s next fight will be on 19 October, when he will defend his WBO North American Boxing Organization title against Mexican Jorge Pazos.

Damien
10-16-2012, 05:20 PM
'Insanity' Fitness Trainer Shaun T Comes out, Marries Boyfriend

http://www.towleroad.com/2012/10/insanity-fitness-trainer-shaun-t-comes-out-marries-boyfriend.html#ixzz29TnVh7Mu

Cute picture

http://towleroad.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c730253ef017c328bc851970b-pi

Bastien
10-17-2012, 08:16 PM
I thought it was a known fact he was gay? I was told by a group of people in an Insanity group I went to. Anyways, cute.

ebby
11-04-2012, 09:46 AM
The Independent has posted its annual Pink List celebrating LGBT people in the UK:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/the-ios-pink-list-2012-8216187.html

The IoS Pink List 2012
Olympic year; an olympic Pink List. More than 1,500 of you voted for the influential lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people who, you feel, make Britain safer, fairer, better and more entertaining. More than 250 nominees' names were run past our panel of judges: two magazine editors, a teacher and LGBT schools adviser, a film maker, a charity CEO, and the Chief Executive of Stonewall. They wrestled with the knotty question of who was most influential in 2012. Not surprisingly, sports people are high on the list. We hope it surprises, amuses, challenges and inspires you. Please let us know what you think.

SisterErnestine
11-04-2012, 10:39 AM
I can't link the story because I'm on my phone, but the singer of Against Me has come out
as transgendered.

Cunter Fartlett
01-07-2013, 05:48 PM
OH EM GEE. Matt Dallas, of KYLE XY fame has come out of the closet to announce his engagement to his boyfriend: https://twitter.com/themattdallas/statuses/288159474831745024?tw_i=288159474831745024&tw_e=media&tw_p=tweetembed

Oh, I remember a few years ago searching endlessly for a picture of his penis that was supposedly stolen/hacked from his phone. And I remember watching every excruciating episode of KYLE XY just so I could drool over him.

You're a lucky man, @BlueHamilton.

EnjoyJoy
01-08-2013, 11:50 PM
I remember I had the biggest crush on him when I watched Kyle XY too!! They make a handsome couple :)

Homogenik
01-11-2013, 03:33 AM
I hear Tom Cruise and John Travolta finally came out and announced they plan on adopting Hugh Jackman. They also plan on hiring me to photograph the event.

Banjee
01-11-2013, 03:45 PM
I hear Tom Cruise and John Travolta finally came out and announced they plan on adopting Hugh Jackman. They also plan on hiring me to photograph the event.
Keanu Reeves is going to be the godmother of the ceremony.

other pete
01-14-2013, 06:59 PM
I hope I'm not jumping the gun here, but JODIE FUCKING FOSTER!!!

yoshi
01-15-2013, 01:04 PM
(Jennifer Garner's daddy, agent) Victor Garber came out :)
link (http://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/people/2013/01/14/actor-victor-garber-confirms-yep-hes-gay)

JayPeaches
01-15-2013, 02:02 PM
I thought he was already out? Or maybe it was just an 'open secret' type of thing. LOVE Victor Garber. LOVE LOVE LOVE!

Ryan
01-30-2013, 03:01 PM
Jim Nabors who played Gomer Pyle on TV has come out.


Actor Jim Nabors, who played 'Gomer Pyle' in the classic 60's sitcom of the same name, has come out of the closet after years of speculation, in an announcement that he married his partner of 38 years, Stan Cadwallader, in Seattle on Jan 15, Hawaii News Now reports:

Nabors declined an on-camera interview but spoke to Hawaii News Now by phone.

"I'm 82 and he's in his 60s and so we've been together for 38 years and I'm not ashamed of people knowing, it's just that it was such a personal thing, I didn't tell anybody," Nabors said. "I'm very happy that I've had a partner of 38 years and I feel very blessed. And, what can I tell you, I'm just very happy."

Nabors said he and Cadwallader traveled to Washington state, where gay marriages became legal in early December 2012. They were married at the Fairmont Olympic Hotel in Seattle.

A judge performed the marriage ceremony in the privacy of their hotel room with a couple of friends who live down the street from them near Diamond Head as witnesses, Nabors said.

Before they were married, Nabors said, "It's pretty obvious that we had no rights as a couple, yet when you've been together 38 years, I think something's got to happen there, you've got to solidify something. And at my age, it's probably the best thing to do."

Source (http://www.towleroad.com/2013/01/naborsgay.html)

other pete
03-18-2013, 02:24 PM
http://www.thetoycabin.com/images/big/BOOKBG560.jpg

English actor Geoffrey Bayldon, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Bayldon) now 89, was a childhood hero of mine in the 70s+80s playing The Crowman, pagan mystical creator of Jon Pertwee's living scarecrow Worzel Gummidge. He's best known here for his early 70s role as manic time-traveling Saxon wizard, Catweazle, though he had guest roles in a colossal number of British films and TV series over 5 decades, including Doctor Who OF COURSE. He was apparently shortlisted for the starring part on more than one occasion (his anecdotes about this are a bit muddled), which he excellently reprised as an alternate first Doctor in a couple of official audio dramas in the '00s.



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http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8100/8569013296_8b06efe346_o.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/Storm_of_Angels.jpg/220px-Storm_of_Angels.jpg


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8528/8568007295_39ddd8347a_o.png




Turns out he's in the "never outed, everyone knew (who knew?)" category, his life partner being the less well known actor Alan Rowe (with four Doctor Who guest appearances to his name - it's like a Richter scale for British TV actors really), who died a few years ago.

waitressboy
04-03-2013, 09:25 PM
Daniela Mercury, one the biggest singers from Brazil (and one of the best, if you ask me) came out today, posting a picture of her marriage with a journalist.

spyk_
04-29-2013, 06:01 PM
NBA player comes out (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22341153#TWEET738584)

Lathan
04-29-2013, 06:18 PM
"Things can change in an instant, so why not live truthfully?"

Good for him.

Kala
04-29-2013, 06:40 PM
For anyone who knows pro basketball, this is kind of a big thing. Props to Jason for realizing and accepting who he really is and having the courage to speak out about it.


When I was younger I dated women. I even got engaged, he said. I thought I had to live a certain way.

I thought I needed to marry a woman and raise kids with her. I kept telling myself the sky was red, but I always knew it was blue.

Also - Go Nike


Sports label Nike, which has endorsed Collins, also supported his decision.

"Jason is a Nike athlete. We are a company committed to diversity and inclusion," a statement said.

JayPeaches
04-29-2013, 06:43 PM
That's so awesome. Given the culture he works in (Pro Sports), that must have taken a lot of courage.

Steve SFM
04-29-2013, 10:47 PM
The homophobic uproar is EPIC.

"He's a terrible player! Society is collapsing! This isn't a story! WHO CARES????!!!111///????"

;l

Ryan
04-29-2013, 10:53 PM
ESPN sportscaster Chris Broussard just started preaching about this sinful openly homosexual lifestyle on air. I didn't realize religion had fuck all to do with playing professional sports. I wish everyone wouldn't suddenly become an amateur preacher when the subject of being gay came up. It's bad enough the bible is complete fiction, but most of them quote it wrong anyway.

other pete
04-29-2013, 11:37 PM
ESPN sportscaster Chris Broussard just started preaching about this sinful openly homosexual lifestyle on air.


:what:

I know some people would be moronic shitburgers in any cultural context, but he's truly illustrating here how "Sin" is the most fuck-up-fuelling gibberish of a concept.

SnowWhitePumps
04-30-2013, 04:48 AM
I've seen a lot of hate on twitter about Collins and his decision to come out, but these are mostly from nobodies. The supportive tweets have been rolling in from Kobe, Shaq, Magic Johnson, Nick Swisher, Andy Roddick, etc. (http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/9223792/reaction-jason-collins-announcement) :)

The haters are bringing up his age, his career stats, how he came out, Tim Tebow being mocked by the media while Collins is praised, blah blah blah. [violin]

Kala
04-30-2013, 06:08 AM
The haters are bringing up his age, his career stats

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/30/sports/basketball/nba-center-jason-collins-comes-out-as-gay.html

He is a mediocre player with a limited skill set but that is not the issue. What is important is that he is the first openly gay male athlete who is still active in a major American team sport. The NY times article states that he is receiving overwhelming support from teammates, league executives, and major National Basketball Association stars.

ebby
04-30-2013, 09:58 AM
^ and Obama: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2013/basketball/nba/wires/04/29/2080.ap.bkn.jason.collins.obama.5th.ld.writethru.0785/

This makes me happy. Usually athletes at the top levels come out when they retire, as if they're afraid of losing sponsorship deals or dealing with fan hate, or whatever. But this is important not just because he's still playing, but his sponsors are holing fast behind him. It sends a major signal that you can be out and play and not lose your income or the support of your team and other top players.

other pete
04-30-2013, 10:35 AM
^ and Obama: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2013/basketball/nba/wires/04/29/2080.ap.bkn.jason.collins.obama.5th.ld.writethru.0785/

This makes me happy. Usually athletes at the top levels come out when they retire, as if they're afraid of losing sponsorship deals or dealing with fan hate, or whatever. But this is important not just because he's still playing, but his sponsors are holing fast behind him. It sends a major signal that you can be out and play and not lose your income or the support of your team and other top players.

At last, and good for him. I know it's even tougher in the US than over here.

I especially hope he is an influence on other sports stars - that will be a colossal contribution.

I'm years out of patience with the UK's millionaire footballers, those at the very top of the corporate tree, who have now seen decades of gay soldiers, firefighters etc coming out and making huge differences in their own communities, while they continue to dance to the homophobes' tune to protect their riches. I'm not belittling that it'll be tough for them, tougher than anything I've experienced, but... just... come on. Ten years ago they had my sympathy and positive encouragement, but if they're still saying "not now" - when even a conservative government is pushing through equality laws - then when? Only after homophobia has finally been eternally vanquished from the realm?

There are huge problems with racism and sexism in commercial sport, and fighting them is taking courage and determination from people who have no choice but to be visible. It's doubly tragic that Justin Fashanu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Fashanu)'s legacy seems to be that he will eternally cited as an reason for gay people at the top of this British religion to stay in hiding, 30 years later... forever? Someone has to seize the moment eventually.

/uncelebratoryrant

Go Collins!

Steve SFM
04-30-2013, 02:29 PM
I never heard Fashanu's story before. How tragic. :( I do think Collins should be fine, though. He seems like a really solid and intelligent guy (not that Fashanu wasn't, of course).

Ryan
04-30-2013, 05:12 PM
Obama was leaving a press conference today when someone yelled out a question about Jason Collins. Obama decided to return to the podium and say a few words about him.


http://youtu.be/8U8iIJZ00AI

Steve SFM
04-30-2013, 06:25 PM
He acted like he was much happier to talk about that than about Benghazi (asked by Ed Henry of Faux, of course :rolleyes:), sequestration, or Gitmo.

spyk_
08-04-2013, 06:32 PM
Ben "I Could REALLY Use A Wash" Whishaw. (http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/122705/Ben-Whishaw-Confirms-Hes-Gay-Happily-Married-To-Rising-Composer)

Baltic
08-04-2013, 07:46 PM
I love him in Bright Star and I love the score to that movie.

He's beautiful.

Volta
08-04-2013, 07:48 PM
Bright Star. gush. Loved that film.

fluteoftheloon
08-04-2013, 09:18 PM
Thirding the Bright Star love.

Also, d'aaaw:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdm6yaXKvo1rn45rxo1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/8428cee59380beb2b94c37a389aae077/tumblr_mhivrbVza11r7n82do1_500.jpg
;l

Dan
08-04-2013, 10:20 PM
Yay! He's adorable.

Steve SFM
08-04-2013, 10:34 PM
He was really good as Q in Skyfall (quite a reinvention) and as the doomed bisexual composer in Cloud Atlas. Glad he's out!

plastic•husband
08-05-2013, 11:15 AM
I am so in love with Ben Whishaw.

EnjoyJoy
08-05-2013, 01:19 PM
Oh, and since it hasn't been mentioned, Raven Symone (former Disney actress) came out over twitter.

Cunter Fartlett
08-16-2013, 03:50 AM
I don't know who this is, because obviously, I don't watch WWE. But wrestler Darren Young has come out, and in a very candid moment. Loved his answer to a camera man who asked if he thought a wrestler could ever come out as gay in the business:


"Absolutely. Look at me. Ya know. I'm a WWE superstar and to be honest with you, I'll tell you right now, I'm gay. And I'm happy. I'm very happy,"


http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/15/showbiz/gay-wrestler/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Cunter Fartlett
08-21-2013, 04:55 PM
Nickelodeon's Lucas Cruikshank (star of Fred and Marvin Marvin) comes out. My son loves his shows. He annoys the hell out of me, and it was sort of like a big 'ol "duh", but nice that he came out!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7UWcrDdKWs#t=127

Andyland
08-21-2013, 11:08 PM
Wentworth Miller!

EnjoyJoy
08-22-2013, 10:10 PM
When I saw that Wentworth Miller came out my jaw dropped and I stopped everything I was doing to read the article. I've crushed on him through all of Prison Break, so my heart skipped a beat! Hahaha, how lame ;l but still, good for him.

The Seaward
08-22-2013, 10:21 PM
Hadn't Wentworth Miller been out for some time?

EnjoyJoy
08-22-2013, 10:27 PM
Not in 2007 at least. (http://www.newnownext.com/prison-break-star-wentworth-miller-in-2007-im-not-gay/08/2013/)

Steve SFM
08-23-2013, 02:29 AM
I think he came out a couple of years ago, but it wasn't as noticed because it wasn't attached to a big news story (anti-gay Russian laws) before.

You know, kind of like how Bradley/Chelsea Manning was known to be trans before today, but now everybody's all surprised. [smirk]

other pete
11-18-2013, 11:55 PM
W00t Moriarty (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/features/sherlock-has-changed-my-whole-career-andrew-scott-interview-8940114.html)

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8940124.ece/ALTERNATES/w380/sherlock-3.jpg

“Mercifully, these days people don't see being gay as a character flaw. But nor is it a virtue, like kindness. Or a talent, like playing the banjo. It's just a fact. Of course, it's part of my make-up, but I don't want to trade on it. I am a private person; I think that's important if you're an actor. But there's a difference between privacy and secrecy, and I'm not a secretive person. Really I just want to get on with my job, which is to pretend to be lots of different people. Simple as that.”

<3

danrag
12-02-2013, 11:03 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-25183041

Tom Daley is dating a man, well I never..!

other pete
12-02-2013, 11:17 AM
Good for him for coming out about it, he didn't have to, it'll make a huge difference to a lot of people. I know "brave" is a cliche but it IS going to be tough when the inevitable media hounding kicks in, even if it's just intrusiveness rather than condemnation (which, hopefully, even the British media are now over as A Thing).

The guy deserves a medal, and I'm sure a lot of people are very eager to give him one.

danrag
12-02-2013, 11:39 AM
The guy deserves a medal, and I'm sure a lot of people are very eager to give him one.

Ahem, indeed! It's very refreshing to see him address his sexuality in such an open way - I like the fact that he hasn't categorized himself in any way and has just been honest about his situation. The press will no doubt struggle with that one, I can imagine Daily Mail readers' heads exploding - a lovely way to start Monday morning :)

Ryan
12-02-2013, 12:10 PM
It's a big change from his statement in September: http://www.towleroad.com/2013/09/british-diver-tom-daley-im-not-gay-1.html

But I'm glad that he felt he could share that. I'm sure it's not easy, considering his celebrity status and all that comes with that (endorsement deals, TV shows, etc.). To come out at the height of all that is a big decision.

soignee
12-02-2013, 12:31 PM
He's bi though, not gay, I'll gently interject. Already crossed words with an ex coworker on bookface about this, about how "hes only saying hes bi for the press innit, bi don't exist" which made me rage quit.

Nice to see more bi people in media! (I say rather selfishly as a bisexual...)

other pete
12-02-2013, 01:37 PM
"hes only saying hes bi for the press innit, bi don't exist"

Gooood grief, I'd get eyeroll concussion from reading that. And that's the line the Daily Mail seem to be taking, not daring to be directly critical of a NationalSportingHero but taking his "I still fancy girls" as if it is some kind of plea for mitigation.

soignee
12-02-2013, 01:48 PM
yeahhhh bisexuality is an odd place for situations like this, as people read what they want to in it. GUYS IT'S OKAY, HE STILL MIGHT END UP NORMAL from the Daily Wail types and "urgh, fence sitters" from supposed allies from various pockets of LBQT.

I'll stop soapboxing now as preach to the choir, as I know everyone here aren't the idiots I saw on my facebook feed ;)

Lathan
12-02-2013, 02:38 PM
Maria Bello comes out as whatever (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/02/maria-bello-gay_n_4371106.html)


[S]he was worried about how it would affect her work and her son. But Jackson was fine with it. “Mom, love is love, whatever you are,” he told her. She continued: So I would like to consider myself a “whatever,” as Jackson said. Whomever I love, however I love them, whether they sleep in my bed or not, or whether I do homework with them or share a child with them, “love is love.” And I love our modern family. Maybe, in the end, a modern family is just a more honest family."


http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/maria-bello/maria-bello-20081005-460788.jpg

Dan
12-02-2013, 02:39 PM
The guy deserves a medal, and I'm sure a lot of people are very eager to give him one.
Medal, pearl necklace, you name it.

okyanus
12-02-2013, 03:00 PM
So moved by the Tom Daley video. Good for him.

Ryan
12-02-2013, 03:49 PM
It was touching that he said (multiple times, even) he felt "safe" with his boyfriend. That just struck me as a really honest thing to say.

Waylon
12-02-2013, 03:55 PM
I don't know when, I don't know how
but I know something's starting right now
watch and you'll see
someday I'll be
part of your world
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o247/yourshade/TomDaley-1521916.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/yourshade/media/TomDaley-1521916.jpg.html)

Steve SFM
12-02-2013, 05:00 PM
Good for him! And yes, bi people exist. I used to be one. ;)

I think Maria Bello has said in the past that she's not monogamous. She strikes me as sort of a "fuck labels" sort of gal, so not surprised by this at all. AND SHE IS SO SMOKING HOT. Oops, that wasn't necessary. :D

spyk_
12-02-2013, 10:44 PM
I still wouldn't shag him. I'd be too concerned I'd wake up the next morning with 'SPONSORED BY BRITISH GAS' stamped on my forehead.

Faust
12-02-2013, 11:23 PM
yeahhhh bisexuality is an odd place for situations like this, as people read what they want to in it. GUYS IT'S OKAY, HE STILL MIGHT END UP NORMAL from the Daily Wail types and "urgh, fence sitters" from supposed allies from various pockets of LBQT.

I'll stop soapboxing now as preach to the choir, as I know everyone here aren't the idiots I saw on my facebook feed ;)

It's okay; I get defensive about it too. Definitely nice to see more bisexual people in the media.

Dan
12-03-2013, 09:20 AM
I still wouldn't shag him. I'd be too concerned I'd wake up the next morning with 'SPONSORED BY BRITISH GAS' stamped on my forehead.

I'd be willing to deal with a bit of gas if I got to shag him.

spyk_
12-03-2013, 10:30 AM
Corporate whore.

Andrew
12-03-2013, 03:12 PM
He's so obnoxiously beautiful. *Kristen Schaal voice* I WANNA SLAP HIM.

Good for him, though. And yeah the bisexual erasure has been really interesting. From what I've seen it's been almost total.

Puddles
12-03-2013, 04:20 PM
yeahhhh bisexuality is an odd place for situations like this, as people read what they want to in it. GUYS IT'S OKAY, HE STILL MIGHT END UP NORMAL from the Daily Wail types and "urgh, fence sitters" from supposed allies from various pockets of LBQT.

I'll stop soapboxing now as preach to the choir, as I know everyone here aren't the idiots I saw on my facebook feed ;)

One of the most arrogant responses I've seen to the Tom Daley video was actually this:

"Interesting. Metro, all alone, leads with Tom Daley announcing 'I'm bisexual'. But he doesn't say that, not even once. I've listened to the video. More than the Metro 'journalists' have done, it seems. Tom never uses the word 'bisexual'. Instead he concentrates on announcing that he is in what the rest of us know as a 'HOMOsexual' or 'gay' relationship. THAT's what he talks about. He has nothing to say about 'being bisexual'. Why is Metro so desperate to thrust this bisexual identity on him? Yes, he said he still fancies girls, but plenty of gay men fancy girls, for heaven's sake. However, Metro is obviously pretty terrified that Tom could be welcomed and admired in the media and by the general public as ... - gay - so poor guy, words are put into his mouth and he's turned into a 'bisexual'. Tom, you were very very wise to make your video yourself - so that everyone can watch it and listen to YOUR OWN WORDS. Meanwhile, what goes on at Metro?"

I'd like to think that the flaws with this comment are obvious to everyone but the person who wrote it?

(You can find the original quote here: http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/02/tom-daley-comes-out-matthew-pinsent-leads-praise-for-brave-decision-4209934/)

Andrew
12-03-2013, 04:55 PM
I kind of agree about thrusting "bisexual" on him - it's increasingly a term people are less satisfied with, what with its neglect of non-binary gender - especially since he didn't state a preferred term, but he explicitly describes some sort of non-monosexuality in the video and there's certainly been a bit of a push to ignore that.

other pete
12-03-2013, 05:19 PM
I have this clumsy/profound/profoundly clumsy idea for an illustration on the topic:

Person looking at a rainbow: "All those black and white stripes, they're beautiful!"
Second person: "Can't you at least, err, see some greys?"

Yeah this is why I am not a political cartoonist.

But there is so much shoehorning of people into 2 categories, that getting people to even realise that there are more than two "types" is in itself a huge challenge - IDK why, but it evidently is. I hope that this, at the same time, challenges the whole weird idea of sexuality as comprising teams that we all should have some kind of declared/registered allegance to.

Puddles
12-03-2013, 05:24 PM
I kind of agree about thrusting "bisexual" on him - it's increasingly a term people are less satisfied with, what with its neglect of non-binary gender - especially since he didn't state a preferred term, but he explicitly describes some sort of non-monosexuality in the video and there's certainly been a bit of a push to ignore that.

What annoys me about the post above is that Tom Daley didn't once use the word "gay" either. The poster makes a big deal out of respecting "HIS OWN WORDS" while twisting everything he says to fit him into a preferred box. I can take your point about bisexuality's limitations as a term. But there's something more going on with the level of aggression and hostility you see toward it from many gay people.

soignee
12-03-2013, 05:25 PM
I am still confused about bisexuality/pansexual differences. You're right, it's a definition everyone has views on, like it's some sort of magic eye painting-- "Thats an elephant." "you what, that's totally a dolphin, how can you not see dolphin?"

Steve SFM
12-03-2013, 05:33 PM
And HuffPo was running the following headline for awhile: "MARIA BELLO: I'M GAY".

I think what's interesting about both Delay and Bello is that neither of them used a word to label themselves. They just identified as being over the moon in love with someone of the same gender. That shouldn't upset anyone. Some people like to take on labels and others don't. Neither is right or wrong. And neither erases the fact that the fight for equality includes these people as well. Their declarations should be welcomed.

Andrew
12-03-2013, 05:56 PM
I am still confused about bisexuality/pansexual differences. You're right, it's a definition everyone has views on, like it's some sort of magic eye painting-- "Thats an elephant." "you what, that's totally a dolphin, how can you not see dolphin?"

I guess "pansexuality" mostly came about due to the descriptive limitations of "bisexuality"; they aren't technically the same thing, but people do still use them interchangeably and there isn't a "correct" term.

We should all use queer. Queer is a really great word. (although I guess it kind of problematically implies a universal queer experience and blargh.)

Volta
12-04-2013, 01:59 AM
Any word on whom Tom is dating? Another diver? Celebrity? Just regular ole guy?

.chris
12-04-2013, 02:14 AM
The blogs are saying Dustin Lance Black.

Volta
12-04-2013, 04:12 AM
They just said it on Watch What Happens Live on Bravo. Cool.

spyk_
12-04-2013, 09:32 AM
I know there's a lot of hatred and bigotry out there, but the support for Daley seems to be pretty unanimous. Still, there's a bunch of really angry Facebook statuses this morning about 'haters' and 'accepting everyone' etc etc. Also, Paul O'Grady went off on one on his chat show the other night. Buzzfeed and other similar websites needs to stop compiling handy articles of troll's tweets and responses to things. It gives a voice to people who would otherwise go unheard.

other pete
12-04-2013, 12:23 PM
Buzzfeed and other similar websites needs to stop compiling handy articles of troll's tweets and responses to things. It gives a voice to people who would otherwise go unheard.

Supra-trolling (the name I have invented, that will not catch on) annoys me as much as the trolling. "LOOK AT ALL THESE OUTRAGEOUS THINGS SOMEONE ELSE HAS SAID, THAT NO ONE WAS LOOKING AT! AND LOOK AT ME WHILE YOU'RE DOING IT!" ...umm thankyou for your contribution.

ebby
12-04-2013, 12:54 PM
I am still confused about bisexuality/pansexual differences. You're right, it's a definition everyone has views on, like it's some sort of magic eye painting-- "Thats an elephant." "you what, that's totally a dolphin, how can you not see dolphin?"

https://31.media.tumblr.com/0b7cfc53835c79617a3e61b4a16cfd3f/tumblr_mx96jg2Iri1rdms1eo2_500.jpg

Bisexuality reinforces the gender binary - you are attracted to Male & Female, which ignores non-binary gender identified people and other aspects of trans and genderqueer identity.

So, Pansexuality is an orientation label that covers attraction to all gender identities, binary and non-binary (and those who don't identify with gender at all). Bisexuality is still very Black & White, from a gender perspective, whereas Pansexuality is about all the grey areas between.

I guess a simpler version would be that Bisexuals are attracted to men and women, whereas Pansexuals are attracted to people.

The Seaward
12-04-2013, 01:43 PM
Thanks for that clarification, ebby. That's the best explanation I've heard and it totally makes sense.

Dan
12-04-2013, 05:14 PM
Bisexuality reinforces the gender binary - you are attracted to Male & Female, which ignores non-binary gender identified people and other aspects of trans and genderqueer identity.

So, Pansexuality is an orientation label that covers attraction to all gender identities, binary and non-binary (and those who don't identify with gender at all). Bisexuality is still very Black & White, from a gender perspective, whereas Pansexuality is about all the grey areas between.

I guess a simpler version would be that Bisexuals are attracted to men and women, whereas Pansexuals are attracted to people.

Binarybinarybinarybinarybinarybinarybinarybinary! /doctordonna

Joey
12-19-2013, 07:08 PM
Brian Boitano.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/sochi/2013/12/19/brian-boitano-announces-he-is-gay-sochi-delegation/4125427/?sf20817094=1

ebby
12-19-2013, 07:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FC1yTKvAGQ

Lathan
12-19-2013, 08:30 PM
I love that Obama has appointed (now) three openly gay delegates to the Olympics.

Andyland
12-29-2013, 10:39 PM
Good Morning America host and cancer survivor Robin Roberts :)

jacob's room
02-15-2014, 04:03 AM
Ellen Page (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ellen-page-comes-as-gay-680563)

I love what she said.


It’s weird because here I am, an actress, representing -- at least in some sense -- an industry that places crushing standards on all of us. Not just young people, but everyone. Standards of beauty. Of a good life. Of success. Standards that, I hate to admit, have affected me. You have ideas planted in your head, thoughts you never had before, that tell you how you have to act, how you have to dress and who you have to be. I have been trying to push back, to be authentic, to follow my heart, but it can be hard.

[...]

I am tired of hiding and I am tired of lying by omission. I suffered for years because I was scared to be out. My spirit suffered, my mental health suffered and my relationships suffered. And I’m standing here today, with all of you, on the other side of all that pain. I am young, yes, but what I have learned is that love, the beauty of it, the joy of it and yes, even the pain of it, is the most incredible gift to give and to receive as a human being. And we deserve to experience love fully, equally, without shame and without compromise.


ETA:


http://youtu.be/1hlCEIUATzg

Steve SFM
02-15-2014, 04:23 AM
Well, <3. People are saying that they've always loved her and now they love her more. I wholeheartedly agree. Now, if HRC could just fix the fucking link to her entire statement, things would be perfect.

I checked out her Twitter, where the congrats are starting to come in. This is her Twitter bio, in full:


I am a tiny Canadian.

;l

ETA: And I just found that video and watched it. It should go without saying that I have something in my eye. <3

Damien
02-15-2014, 04:41 AM
Great speech

Stone
02-15-2014, 02:53 PM
Well, <3. People are saying that they've always loved her and now they love her more. I wholeheartedly agree.

Count me in, señor. What a beautiful human being.

jacob's room
02-15-2014, 05:08 PM
So I posted that video on Facebook and someone commented: "Okay, it's a nice speech, but come on. Who didn't know she was gay..."

Am I wrong in being really upset by that? It's like he's completely discrediting her bravery and her entire speech, practically saying "Whatever. No surprise there." And he's gay! I would've expected a little more understanding/empathy coming from him.

I sort of ranted and then he was all "That's not what I mean bla bla," but I can't help but get pissed off. Am I overreacting?

Andyland
02-15-2014, 05:12 PM
I've seen that response a lot. As if coming out is only interesting or valid if it's SHOCKING.


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Steve SFM
02-15-2014, 06:07 PM
Yeah, there's a lot of that,.and it's annoying. But even more annoying, IMO, is "Who cares?" First of all, if you post that in a thread, YOU care. Second. gay folks and their supporters have explained over and over why it matters when people come out. If people don't acknowledge that, they're ignorant. Probably willfully ignorant. And. probably willfully ignorant because they're fucking bigots.

Andreas
02-15-2014, 06:37 PM
What annoys me about the post above is that Tom Daley didn't once use the word "gay" either. The poster makes a big deal out of respecting "HIS OWN WORDS" while twisting everything he says to fit him into a preferred box. I can take your point about bisexuality's limitations as a term. But there's something more going on with the level of aggression and hostility you see toward it from many gay people.

I think it's pretty understandable, and I find myself having that knee-jerk reaction sometimes. I think that for some people, accepting yourself as gay, and coming out, are huge and pretty traumatic events. You finally do it, often after years of taunting (often prominently involving the word "gay") and negative reinforcement from society at large. And you go through that thing of telling people over and over that you're gay, and it's excruciating, especially in the beginning. But that also makes it, I don't know, something to be proud of. Not being gay, but having made that journey.

And then, suddenly, all these famous people with lots of social capital "come out" but won't take the words "gay" or "bi", words you never even imagined not using, into their mouths. And that can be... a little bit provocative. Somehow, my knee-jerk suspicion, which I think lots of people might share, is that the reason often isn't because of some pan-sexual "it's the individual I fall in love with" definition of sexuality, but a more basic aversion to use the word "gay" because of the word's negative connotations.

I'm not saying that that feeling is correct, but my suspicion is that a lot of the negative reaction you see among gay people to these kinds of coming outs might stem from that kind of feeling.

plastic•husband
02-16-2014, 02:04 AM
That was a beautiful speech! She seems like such a cool person.

waitressboy
02-16-2014, 02:22 AM
I haven't seen her giving a speech before, but what I saw made me feel like she wasn't going to say that she's gay. It was not on her plan, and there's something in the middle of her speech that makes her realize that she should say it. Her body's language changes, the movement of her hand is diferent.
Still, a nice speech.

plastic•husband
02-16-2014, 02:27 AM
Yyyeah she was probably nervous. Understandable. It's hard enough giving a speech in the first place.

uncanny hats
02-16-2014, 06:48 PM
So I posted that video on Facebook and someone commented: "Okay, it's a nice speech, but come on. Who didn't know she was gay..."

Am I wrong in being really upset by that? It's like he's completely discrediting her bravery and her entire speech, practically saying "Whatever. No surprise there." And he's gay! I would've expected a little more understanding/empathy coming from him.

I sort of ranted and then he was all "That's not what I mean bla bla," but I can't help but get pissed off. Am I overreacting?

You know, when I first heard, I rolled my eyes, and as if there's some overarching strategy not being followed said, "Tom Selleck coming out would be more awesome than the Queen of Hipsters" (which is a horrible thing to say), but then I watched the speech, and saw this massive weight lifted from Ellen Page's shoulders. I cried and cried and cried and cried.


Yeah, there's a lot of that,.and it's annoying. But even more annoying, IMO, is "Who cares?" First of all, if you post that in a thread, YOU care. Second. gay folks and their supporters have explained over and over why it matters when people come out. If people don't acknowledge that, they're ignorant. Probably willfully ignorant. And. probably willfully ignorant because they're fucking bigots.

Yeah.

ebby
02-16-2014, 07:45 PM
It's a fucking beautiful, heartfelt speech and you can tell it means so much to her to say that in public, and that is worth so much. As well as having a famous young lesbian (oscar nominated!) role-model for young people too.

fox in socks
02-17-2014, 12:25 AM
So, Alexander skarsgaard was a beard? What news. ;)

I love Ellen and this isn't a major surprise, but I think her speech reinforces the pressure Hollywood actors & actresses are to fit a product. I've always thought it so ironic that creative, emotive people would have to censor themselves to fit an impossible mold.

Steve SFM
02-17-2014, 12:38 AM
It's funny. A lot of straight guys online are saying they think she's totally hot (which, of course she is), but it's not like they had a chance, anyway. ;l And then, they say that they're glad she's happy. And sure, there are bigots saying bigoted shit, but it really feels like it's getting somewhat better.

C33
02-26-2014, 04:07 PM
ETA: nvm

Happy for Ellen Page! I was kind of surprised by her coming out (for a second).. simply because I never thought about it one way or the other. She's great!

ebby
06-10-2015, 01:59 PM
So, Miley Cyrus talks about coming out as bi when she was 14 and what how her mother reacted, as well as talking about fluid gender identity and orientation, in this interview with Paper Mag: (NSFW images in the link. Very naked Miley.) http://www.papermag.com/2015/06/miley_cyrus_happy_hippie_foundation.php


She says she has come to consider her own sexuality -- even her own gender identification -- fluid. "I am literally open to every single thing that is consenting and doesn't involve an animal and everyone is of age. Everything that's legal, I'm down with. Yo, I'm down with any adult -- anyone over the age of 18 who is down to love me," she says. "I don't relate to being boy or girl, and I don't have to have my partner relate to boy or girl." She says she's had romantic entanglements with women that were just as serious as the ones (Liam Hemsworth, Patrick Schwarzenegger, Nick Jonas) that ended up in Us Weekly. "I've had that," she admits. "But people never really looked at it, and I never brought it into the spotlight."

She recalls confessing to her mother, at age 14, that she had romantic feelings toward women. "I remember telling her I admire women in a different way. And she asked me what that meant. And I said, I love them. I love them like I love boys," she says. "And it was so hard for her to understand. She didn't want me to be judged and she didn't want me to go to hell. But she believes in me more than she believes in any god. I just asked for her to accept me. And she has." These days, Cyrus only wants to grant others the same clemency.

Steve SFM
06-10-2015, 04:01 PM
The fact that a musical superstar is talking like that makes me very happy.

EnjoyJoy
05-11-2016, 01:33 AM
Colton Haynes (finally) came out! So a round of applause to him :)

NUHN
05-11-2016, 03:02 PM
There's no timeline for coming out. :)

EnjoyJoy
05-11-2016, 03:25 PM
True that, and it's never too late :)

...though it's kinda sad when you feel you've wasted years of your life in the closet :(

Anyway, Mr. Haynes is still young and has plenty of good years ahead of him ;)

EnjoyJoy
04-03-2017, 12:41 AM
Daniel Newman from the Walking Dead came out this week! [pride]

Alamo
04-28-2017, 02:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpFQL-oLTj4

Tearing.

nathan zephyrus
08-28-2017, 09:19 PM
UK Olympic medallist Colin Jackson (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/28/olympic-medallist-colin-jackson-announces-he-is-gay)

fluteoftheloon
10-30-2017, 11:57 AM
Oops, nevermind. Has been discussed in another thread.

BrotherNamedErised
04-26-2018, 01:33 PM
It's a real joy that we can officially add the great Janelle Monáe to the list. (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/janelle-monae-frees-herself-629204/)

DavidIX
04-26-2018, 04:06 PM
It's a real joy that we can officially add the great Janelle Monáe to the list. (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/cover-story-janelle-monae-prince-new-lp-her-sexuality-w519523)

This makes me so unbelievably happy!
Nice to have it confirmed.

She is such a warrior in so many ways, she's going to be a real icon and role model for so many!

Owen
04-26-2018, 04:40 PM
<3 I love her so much.

Steve SFM
04-26-2018, 05:50 PM
“I consider myself to be a free-ass motherfucker.”

I think we have a new term for bisexuals. ;l

Good on her. This will really mean something to queer black kids.

dAmION
04-26-2018, 11:16 PM
^I think we all knew she liked both sides. But she'll always prefer Androids in my mind. ;)

Spikey
08-17-2018, 01:29 AM
Totally missed that Tanita Tikaram openly talked about her relationship with Natacha Horn last year;
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/diva-uk/20170217/282089161595545

After 30 years of speculation and avoiding labels, I can't help but feeling happy, proud and overwhelmed with this.

MikeEP
08-27-2018, 07:29 PM
anyone else find this to be a pretty shitty thing for Gus Kensworthy to do?

https://twitter.com/guskenworthy/status/1033880074414686209

considering Shawn isn't out, unless he gave his permission, it's pretty creepy and gross to take this photo with him and then turn it into this joke/thirst trap/grab for attention.

plastic•husband
08-27-2018, 08:25 PM
Idk, maybe he's secure and comfortable with such jokes. We shouldn't even assume he has a closet to be in. Also the joke seems more about him being young and hot than being potentially gay.

MikeEP
08-27-2018, 08:47 PM
Idk, maybe he's secure and comfortable with such jokes. We shouldn't even assume he has a closet to be in. Also the joke seems more about him being young and hot than being potentially gay.

that's the thing...he's not comfortable with it as far as I can tell.

this article sums up the history of this kind of speculation about Shawn and why i find it gross, especially coming from someone like Gus who dealt with coming out as a public figure and I'm willing to bet wouldn't have appreciated this kind of attention before he did:

https://www.them.us/story/shawn-mendes-is-heterosexual

Ryan
08-27-2018, 10:27 PM
Gus flirts with every straight guy he pals around with, though. He’s made jokes with Ryan Reynolds, Henry Cavill, a bunch of his Olympic friends, etc. I don’t think he’s trying to out Shawn or even implying that he’s gay.

Shawn is very close to Teddy Geiger and has repeatedly talked about his support for the gay community. If he’s friendly with Gus and secure in his sexuality I don’t think he’d care. If he did feel uncomfortable and sent Gus a message, I’m sure Gus would take it down.

For the record, Tom Daley also very publicly and unabashedly talked about his crush on Shawn Mendes and Shawn at some point replied to him. Shawn didn’t seem to have a problem with that. I feel like Gus’s tweets and Instagram pics were similar.

BrotherNamedErised
08-27-2018, 10:33 PM
While it's not the most tasteful of jokes, it doesn't feel mean-spirited - to me at least.

Dan
08-28-2018, 09:11 AM
Why is everyone so obsessed with this Mendes guy? He's not even hot.

MikeEP
08-28-2018, 01:07 PM
Gus flirts with every straight guy he pals around with, though. He’s made jokes with Ryan Reynolds, Henry Cavill, a bunch of his Olympic friends, etc. I don’t think he’s trying to out Shawn or even implying that he’s gay.

I think the Sean Cody thing definitely implies he’s gay. But you’re probably right that it’s just a joke and he might be in on it for all we know. It just seemed like it put Shawn in a very awkward position given how young he is and how uncomfortable he seems to be with discussing his sexuality.

I fully admit I just get grossed out by “instagays” like Gus in general. Feels like they’re playing a game of Pokémon or something.

Ryan
08-28-2018, 02:27 PM
It’s funny because my initial reaction to the Sean Cody thing was that it suggests he isn’t gay because a lot of Sean Cody models identify and live their lives as straight men. ;l

MikeEP
08-28-2018, 02:36 PM
^ LOL...very good point. ;l