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Rabih
10-21-2014, 09:07 AM
This topic is solely dedicated to the setlist and freakout for the first Tori show at the Sydney Opera House in Sydney, Australia with the Sydney Symphony Orchestra.

Setlist - All songs performed with the Sydney Orchestra unless noted otherwise.

ACT I
1. Baker Baker
2. Girl Disappearing
3. Crucify [solo]
4. Winter
5. Maybe California
6. Leather
7. Cloud on my Tongue
8. Purple People [solo]
9. Hey Jupiter

ACT II
10. Jackie's Strength
11. Bells for Her [solo]
12. Snow Cherries from France
13. Programmable Soda
14. Silent All These Years
15. 1000 Oceans [solo]
16. Yes Anastasia

Encore
17. Edge of the Moon
18. Precious Things

Official Setlist

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10456202_10152522977614091_996753064108718278_n.jpg?oh=dc573d1af5a98fdbb229ddcbb505ce32&oe=54ECF581&__gda__=1423215550_9f3e7872273c229cd18e7c7d3e17e9d1

City Selfie

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/p417x417/10414839_10152522976714091_8004769369984286577_n.jpg?oh=e0cb3fd9ce6a53ea9054c2aa5aab9c6c&oe=54D558CD&__gda__=1423852507_5cf14012416c65c44185760ab4266dd8

Videos

Yes, Anastasia


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKPixsHzhQI

Silent All these Years


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5txyTLVlEEA&list=UUP57WbyMDmI4ogTjeMkhp1g

Girl Disappearing


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfXk4P3MX0w

Crucify


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlBmyg4-lzg

Edge of the Moon


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZFYTUJxa9E

Precious Things


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWl7SdJ5wBM

Audio

Rabih
11-03-2014, 07:45 AM
Now open for discussion.

dAmION
11-03-2014, 08:05 PM
Excited for this show! I think Flying Dutchman is a lock and I hope she plays Spring Haze.

berke
11-03-2014, 11:56 PM
I just think it will be a lot like the 2012 shows + maybe something like Oysters arranged for the orchestra? (which would sound amazing)

Baltic
11-04-2014, 04:40 AM
I feel that since she was invited by the orchestra to play that they'll have a greater input and might actually challenge her to perform songs not yet performed.

hey j.
11-04-2014, 07:25 AM
Where did we find out that she was invited to play?

I thought the main reason why the setlist was locked in was due to what songs had full orchestral arrangements written. Meaning unless Shenale wrote new arrangements the setlist would probably be similar to the Gold Dust tour.

Yo Jupiter
11-05-2014, 07:49 AM
I would like for her to surprise everyone with a totally unexpected song!

Orchestral Fat Slut for example.

waitressboy
11-05-2014, 11:55 AM
Nah, it's gonna be the same setlist of Amsterdam 2012.

Now, seriously.

Dear Tash:
We know your mother really pays attention to your suggestions.
So please, PLEASE, ask her to play any song from Taylor Swift's 1989 (maybe Blank Space, Out Of The Woods or I know Places). And ask her now, so she has enough time to practice it.
Thank you.

Littlegreen
11-05-2014, 03:14 PM
Nah, it's gonna be the same setlist of Amsterdam 2012.

Now, seriously.

Dear Tash:
We know your mother really pays attention to your suggestions.
So please, PLEASE, ask her to play any song from Taylor Swift's 1989 (maybe Blank Space, Out Of The Woods or I know Places). And ask her now, so she has enough time to practice it.
Thank you.

WHAAAA?!

I hope Smokey Joe appears.

Alamo
11-05-2014, 04:54 PM
...and cruel.

Cunter Fartlett
11-05-2014, 06:41 PM
Nah, it's gonna be the same setlist of Amsterdam 2012.

Now, seriously.

Dear Tash:
We know your mother really pays attention to your suggestions.
So please, PLEASE, ask her to play any song from Taylor Swift's 1989 (maybe Blank Space, Out Of The Woods or I know Places). And ask her now, so she has enough time to practice it.
Thank you.

Dear Tash,


NO.

Thanks.

;)

Alamo
11-05-2014, 09:22 PM
;l

hey j.
11-06-2014, 02:54 AM
To be honest, I would be absolutely content with NO covers (especially no Taylor Swift covers!) as I really think they have been the weakest part of the recent shows. I actually preferred the '05 lizard lounge I think - all the mashups and beats from this tour have come across as messy to me.

waitressboy
11-06-2014, 03:57 AM
Well, I suppose that If she's with an orchestra there won't be any Beats and synths, only she and the piano, and in the solo section she could perform two covers that she has rehearsed and prepared with time. I still think Tori could do a good codo of Taylor Swift, since she's going to perform all of Gold Dust (the album).

dAmION
11-06-2014, 04:19 AM
Wouldn't it be awesome if she was filming these orchestral shows in some way?

Baltic
11-08-2014, 03:02 AM
And not releasing them?

other pete
11-08-2014, 07:08 AM
My compilation of 2011/2 quartet/octet tour boots is my most played Tori of the decade, and it would be fantastic if she worked up any of Cruel, Father Lucifer, Spring Haze, Spark, Siren, Smokey Joe, Hey Jupiter for full orchestra... my mouth is watering on your behalf. But realistically this will probably be a reprise of the same set she toured Europe with post-Gold Dust, they've not got a lot of rehearsal time and will I expect put sure-footedness before variety...

Waylon
11-08-2014, 10:13 PM
Well, I suppose that If she's with an orchestra there won't be any Beats and synths, only she and the piano...

I dunno. She seems pretty attached to the synth these days. As much as I hate to say it, I can't imagine her not using the synth effects as a crutch these days.

Yo Jupiter
11-09-2014, 08:39 PM
A cover of any Azealia Banks song, s'il te plaît Tori!

Regina Phalange
11-09-2014, 09:58 PM
If I did my time zone conversion right, this show will start at 4am EST. That's great for people who get up really early or stay up really late, but I don't think I'll be following along live this leg.

InvisibleBK
11-10-2014, 02:51 AM
I dunno. She seems pretty attached to the synth these days. As much as I hate to say it, I can't imagine her not using the synth effects as a crutch these days.

On Instagram she has a picture up of rehearsal and she has the synth behind her.

eresos
11-10-2014, 04:11 AM
I hoped she planned to film this since the moment I heard she was to perform with orchestra again
Why she didn't do so before baffles me

fullofwish
11-10-2014, 08:29 AM
If I did my time zone conversion right, this show will start at 4am EST. That's great for people who get up really early or stay up really late, but I don't think I'll be following along live this leg.

4am EST is 8pm in Sydney, so you're about right. It's late night for me, so I probably won't be around either

Regina Phalange
11-10-2014, 05:20 PM
Well, whatever she plays tonight, she's definitely going to be dropping that bass (http://toriamos.tumblr.com/post/102288160921/basses-taking-a-rest).

http://38.media.tumblr.com/ee285ca879e183c1ddd3f3b28c50fbe3/tumblr_neu51fJXPK1t2f8s1o1_500.jpg



http://mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/img/mlfw7506-BD_DUM_TSS.jpg

Waylon
11-10-2014, 05:20 PM
I get up for work at 4am CST. I look forward to the freak out!

CareyM
11-10-2014, 07:27 PM
Soooo looking forward to tonight!!!!!!

CareyM
11-10-2014, 07:28 PM
Does anyone know if she is doing meet and greets on this tour?

howieD
11-11-2014, 12:51 AM
No M&G today, or at the Adelaide show, otherwise - yep. :)

8 hrs til showtime - on my way to Sydney now. Such excite.

anastasia1009
11-11-2014, 02:04 AM
I moved time zones so I can stay awake this time and its a holiday here in Saskatchewan so I am off.
I just hope there is a texted since Opera house is concrete

Bloody Grace
11-11-2014, 07:46 AM
Good show everyone! I hoped my sister could attend, but she could not in the end :/

warmgun
11-11-2014, 08:23 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2JmfJRCcAAKv99.jpg

warmgun
11-11-2014, 08:36 AM
1. Baker, Baker
2. Girl Disappearing
3. Crucify (solo?)
4. Winter
5. Maybe California
6. Leather
7. Cloud on my tongue

Yo Jupiter
11-11-2014, 08:40 AM
No opening Parasol? Interesting...

MrQuin
11-11-2014, 08:50 AM
All I want is Oysters with strings.

lovecraft
11-11-2014, 09:03 AM
Meh, i can imagine the huge requests for Maybe California and Leather.

warmgun
11-11-2014, 09:03 AM
1. Baker, Baker
2. Girl Disappearing
3. Crucify (solo?)
4. Winter
5. Maybe California
6. Leather
7. Cloud on my tongue
8. Purple People (solo?)
9. Hey Jupiter

intermission

MrQuin
11-11-2014, 09:06 AM
Pretty unimaginative so far. She's obviously on autopilot.

warmgun
11-11-2014, 09:11 AM
We don't know if crucify and purple were solo or with orchestra

rhvlx
11-11-2014, 09:14 AM
We don't know if crucify and purple were solo or with orchestra

Hello – sometime lurker following along due to lack of £1000 for a plane ticket to Australia. My friend at the show says Crucify was (inexplicably) solo... awaiting confirmation on Purple People.

Bizarre.

CareyM
11-11-2014, 09:25 AM
No autopilot here! So far fantastic! !

MrQuin
11-11-2014, 09:35 AM
Ok, good to know she delivers even though the setlist is nothing to write home about.

warmgun
11-11-2014, 09:44 AM
According to the setlist found on the sound control location:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2J1cyNCEAA309W.jpg

1. Baker, Baker
2. Girl Disappearing
3. Crucify (solo)
4. Winter
5. Maybe California
6. Leather
7. Cloud on my tongue
8. Purple People (solo)
9. Hey Jupiter

intermission

10. Jackie's Strength
11. Bells for Her (solo)
12. Snow Cherries from France
13. Programmable Soda
14. SATY
15. 1000 Oceans (solo)
16. Yes Anastasia

encore
17. Edge of the Moon
18. Precious Things

Bloody Grace
11-11-2014, 09:52 AM
Oh, Edge of the Moon and Anastasia <3

bkork
11-11-2014, 10:26 AM
What a dull setlist...

Littlegreen
11-11-2014, 10:33 AM
If it were a solo set, I would be deflated. But with an orchestra it must be stunning! <3

Yo Jupiter
11-11-2014, 10:51 AM
Well this setlist is disappointing... she could've at least done Flavor seeing as it hasn't appeared this tour (afaik) instead of Leather or SATY.

But Anastasia and Edge are cool at least. And I always like to hear Snow Cherries, Jackie and California.

hey j.
11-11-2014, 11:02 AM
So I just got back to my hotel and ... wow, what a spectacular show.

For me, seeing Tori perform with an orchestra has always been a dream, and this show did not disappoint. Aside from a minor slip up on Girl Disappearing (I didn't even actually notice what went wrong, but basically a third of the way through, Tori messed up and they started from the start) it was utter perfection. What most surprised me above even from the gorgeousness of the orchestra, and of course Tori's piano, would have to be her voice. It was actually incredible, so strong and clear, I feel like she didn't miss a note.

In terms of highlights, I would have to say that Leather, Hey Jupiter, Edge of the Moon, and Precious Things were my favourites. Also Purple People, Crucify and Bells were totally top notch for me, and even eclipsed some of the orchestra songs in terms of awesomeness for me.

I will address the "negative" (if you could call it that) but the setlist - aside from being a little safe - just seemed a bit oddly ordered to me. Baker Baker and Girl Disappearing were gorgeous, but lacked a bit of punch to start the show. And I would have the say that the second half of the show definitely had more energy to me. I think for a first show with a new orchestra, it exceeded all of my expectations, if Tori was nervous, it didn't really show, and it was close to a perfect show for me.

I would be lying however if I said I wasn't really looking forward to my Melbourne solo show. The solo songs at tonights show seemed much more relaxed and you could tell Tori was loving taking a breathe from the orchestra arrangements, so I feel like we're in for some amazing solo shows.

But yeah, if I saw this setlist without having gone to the show I would have been very underwhelmed, but it was phenomenal.

PS. A TEENY bit bitter that Maybe California was played over Flying Dutchman/Flavour/Marianne ... and it was kind of awkward and noticeable that it was more or less the only song that got no reaction from the audience as it started playing lol

waitressboy
11-11-2014, 11:11 AM
Told ya, it was the same setlist than in 2012. BUT that setlist with very good Voice, that's ok for me.
I'm surprised she didn't play any cover solo.

Daisy's Dead
11-11-2014, 11:44 AM
I thought it was a brilliant show. She didn't come to oz with the quartet and it was my first time seeing her with strings. It was awesome. It was the best show I've seen since '99 in London. Her voice was awesome, he playing was so precise and effective. Just brilliant. She was having so much fun, you could tell.

I thought her choices of purple people & Bells were a nod to her fans, but all 4 solo songs were excellent. I too would have been bored with this setlist on paper, but it was transformed when played with a symphony. Leather was absolutely brilliant. It was played @ pace and for the first time in over a decade I listened carefully and enjoyed it. Similarly, California, which I have never liked was very poignant and moving.

Couple of other random minor points. She looked great. Really liked her blue dress thing over leather pants. She sung the whaling part of Hey Jupiter an octave lower in one section, which I hadn't heard before, the rest she nailed. Programable soda got a great response and sounded awesome. Highlights for me were anastasia & edge of the moon (her playing in particular @ the end refrain was excellent!). Fuck up was great. She has such a great confidence on stage. It didn't seem to phase her one bit. Straight into an improv (which I suspect she had ready) and back into it.

Ps, who was the guy centre front row. I need to meet him! He was having a GREAT time lol.

urban spell
11-11-2014, 12:02 PM
^ yeah that guy was going off!! Loved his energy!!

Just home myself and even though the set list is a bit lack lustre on paper, man that orchestra gave such power to the songs! Found myself loving programmable soda (never thought I'd say that haha!) but Anastasia and EOTM were so great! And I really loved bells and 1000 oceans and leather too.. As much as she is an awesome performer and super professional, I still think she gets more nervous when she's got the orchestra on stage with her (but who who wouldn't when playing with he Sydney symphony orchestra in the Sydney opera house?!!!) I do love how the orchestra forces her to not drag some songs out though! Haha!

All in all I had a great night..... But oh how I would love to hear Spring Haze or Dutchman with an orchestra... Or ... Or ... I could go on! Thanks T!

urban spell
11-11-2014, 12:04 PM
Ps: I thought her voice sounded soooo muuuuch better than the last time I heard her live! Yay!

AshaBlack
11-11-2014, 12:19 PM
Really loved tonights show. The set list was so safe but she was so on point that it didn't matter. Everything looked and sounded so great. I was absolutely thrilled to have had Purple People finally. Can't wait for tomorrows show.

Does anyone know what time roughly she normally does her meet and greets?

cvalda
11-11-2014, 01:06 PM
Really loved tonights show. The set list was so safe but she was so on point that it didn't matter. Everything looked and sounded so great. I was absolutely thrilled to have had Purple People finally. Can't wait for tomorrows show.

Does anyone know what time roughly she normally does her meet and greets?

THIS. I've flown in from Vietnam for the 2nd night. Any idea if she will do meet and greet anyone? How do people know this shit? Hopefully she will do a MG at the Melbourne show

bratboy
11-11-2014, 01:48 PM
Sounds like a great show. Glad y'all enjoyed it.

dAmION
11-11-2014, 08:28 PM
Was the show sold-out??

RecoveringXian
11-12-2014, 12:44 AM
Was the show sold-out??

I know the first night was, for sure. Someone posted a photo online of a poster at the venue with a "Sold Out" sticker over the date. The second night's date was still visible, so I assume there were/are seats still available.

RecoveringXian
11-12-2014, 12:52 AM
First vid, "Girl Disappearing":


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfXk4P3MX0w

Octopussy
11-12-2014, 01:06 AM
One of the reasons I still haven't collected many Gold Dust tour boots is because the setlists, while nice, and well-performed, are almost all ballads. I get that most of Tori's songs with strings ARE ballads, but still... she only reworked a couple songs - Hey Jupiter (another ballad) and Precious Things.

Ditch Maybe California, Snow Cherries and Girl Disappearing forever. Orchestral arrangements for those songs are waste of time because no likes them anyway! And what's with Programmable Soda? You have Happy Phantom and Mr. Zebra in your canon, an ensemble at your fingertips and you choose THAT?

I wonder if they attempted to remake Cornflake Girl and A Sorta Fairytale, because these orchestra shows could use some songs like that. However, my top choices for full orchestral reworks are still Beauty of Speed and iiieee.

berke
11-12-2014, 02:07 AM
I find it really funny that it's been 4 years since her first orchestra show in Amsterdam and she's still basically using the same setlist.

RecoveringXian
11-12-2014, 02:55 AM
Anastasia, and she PLAYS THE SHIT OUT OF IT!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKPixsHzhQI

The body language and fierce standing at the end may outshine the Milan fist-pump from a few years back...

dAmION
11-12-2014, 04:55 AM
^Awesome!

SloppyJane
11-12-2014, 04:58 AM
Shocked there wasn't a single UG song!

warmgun
11-12-2014, 07:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5txyTLVlEEA&list=UUP57WbyMDmI4ogTjeMkhp1g

Nora
11-12-2014, 02:20 PM
Wow, Yes, Anastasia was amazing! Especially the end.

soignee
11-12-2014, 03:14 PM
the outfits are the best she's worn this tour! Also that Y,A was amazing.

Bloody Grace
11-12-2014, 08:06 PM
She's so cute that I want to eat her.

antisaint
11-12-2014, 10:39 PM
Ditch Maybe California, Snow Cherries and Girl Disappearing forever. Orchestral arrangements for those songs are waste of time because no likes them anyway! And what's with Programmable Soda? You have Happy Phantom and Mr. Zebra in your canon, an ensemble at your fingertips and you choose THAT?

I agree that Maybe California is crap, but I love all of the other ones. 'Girl Disappearing' and 'Programmable Soda' are highlights of ADP for me, and 'Snow Cherries' was the best chance at saving TOAL.

howieD
11-12-2014, 10:46 PM
2 reviews:

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/nov/12/tori-amos-at-the-sydney-opera-house-review-a-dark-queen-who-presides-over-longing-cruelty-and-elation?CMP=twt_gu

Tori Amos review – a dark queen presiding over longing and elation
4 / 5 stars
Sydney Opera House, Sydney
The 51-year-old singer projects playfulness and power, and clearly takes delight in playing live

In 2012, Tori Amos was being interviewed by the CNN journalist Brooke Baldwin when, right at the end of the segment, as the crew started to pack up the equipment, a camera left rolling caught the singer giving Baldwin advice on the art of ageing:

As you get older, you just have to step into your grace ... The youngsters don’t have what you bring, which is an awareness, a knowledge. Please, just hold your head up high. You can’t be 27 and be a great queen.”

Yesterday’s concert at the Sydney Opera House, where Amos was accompanied by a 42-piece orchestra, proved just how right she was. The 51-year-old singer has arrived. She projects both playfulness and wisdom, she’s frighteningly professional, and still visibly takes delight in playing live.

Amos takes the stage in her trademark vertiginous stilettos, draped in long silky turquoise dress and leather leggings. The crowd, unsurprisingly, are awestruck – her adoring fans, who have been following her for close to two decades, are known for their loyalty; some have travelled from as far as London to see her play here.

Amos, in return, is very generous. Her performances have remained fresh and exciting thanks to her ability to perfectly curate her setlists (they differ from night to night, so she posts them all on her Instagram account). Unlike more precious artists who insist on only playing from their latest material, Amos is always happy to blend her greatest hits (Crucify, Silent All These Years) with more obscure ballads (Leather, Snow Cherries from France), and, if you’re lucky, her famous covers (her latest tour has seen her try her hand at Prince’s When Doves Cry and Chris Isaak’s Wicked Game).

In the cocoon of the Opera House, the orchestra players carry her voice like adoring servants. Amos is so self-assured that when she forgets the lyrics of Girl Disappearing, she quickly apologies before launching into a piano improvisation: “I always do this ... ” she sings, “I am sorry, I always do this,” before starting again with aplomb. The audience is nothing but delighted by her bravado.

Amos’s strength has always been her willingness to dig deep and spill her guts out. She’s at her strongest when staring at the abyss, singing about loss, betrayal, abuse. Here the string section highlights the prettiness of her melodies in contrast to the cruelties of her lyrics. In such a respectable setting, it almost feels like heresy to hear her sing Precious Things:

He said you’re really an ugly girl / But I like the way you play

And I died / But I thanked him / Can you believe that

Sick, sick, holding on to his picture / Dressing up every day

I want to smash the faces of those beautiful boys / Those Christian boys

So you can made me come / That doesn’t make you Jesus

It’s a sight to behold: she sings those words straddling her seat, caught between her two pianos, as if riding a wild horse. From afar, she is a mythical creature: an Amazon with fiery red hair falling in cascades past her shoulders, or perhaps a mermaid, menacingly singing towards the shores while holding the keys to the dark side of the feminine spirit.

Away from her most saccharine ballads, feet firmly planted on her pianos’ pedals as she looks straight at what makes us imperfect humans, she’s grandiose. Longing, anger, cruelty, elation: like a dark queen, she presides over these emotions to her audience’s delight. Ageing should mean nothing when you hold such power.


http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/tori-amos-review-drama-a-long-time-coming-in-subdued-show-20141112-11kt9w.html

Tori Amos
Sydney Opera House, November 11
★★★


You can trust Tori Amos to bring the drama. The record-breaking 51-year-old is not known for being a wallflower.
Just the fact she is here on her 13th world tour, an 80-date show in support of her 14th album Unrepentant Geraldines, is electrifying.
On this particular night, the drama came, rather strangely, by having to wait until the encore for things to actually swing into life.
Up until then, we sat on the edge of our seats, waiting for a grand moment from the wonderful Cornflake Girl or a musical explosion from the Sydney Symphony Orchestra accompanying her.
It was a satisfying but subdued concert; engaging in its intimacy, intriguing in its mutedness.
After all, Amos has never been one to deliver something predictable.
Her powerful, tearing-down-the-piano emotion was not as obvious. She performed just 18 songs over two-and-a-half hours, most of them re-arranged from their percussive, dramatic '90s form to more fluid, stirring orchestral soundtracks of epic lengths.
Four solos dotted the symphony performance. In pared-back versions of Crucify, Purple People, Bells For Her and 1000 Oceans, she straddled a stool between a grand piano and her Yamaha keyboard, her legs splayed, pelvis thrusting the stool almost off the ground.
She was passionate and absorbed and shot plenty of pensive stares towards the crowd but there were few moments where she truly unleashed.
Act One, comprising nine tracks, stayed at the same level. It threatened to cruise into boring territory as we looked for a point of difference or drama.
Act Two, comprising six tracks, was more promising. Programmable Soda was playful and perky to contrast the swirling masses of sounds that came before and after.
Then, finally, she boomed to life for Yes, Anastasia and an encore of Edge of the Moon and Precious Things. The orchestra surged grandly and Amos surged even further.
It was compelling to hear '90s ballads transformed into orchestral marathons but it was something else to end in such a powerful, stunning way.
Even her look was dramatic. Amos's orange bouffant framed a shinier, suspiciously tauter face and her electric-turquoise gown swirled theatrically as she left the stage with such little fanfare that many continued to cheer as the lights came on, convinced she'd return once more. Oh, the drama.
Tori Amos plays a solo show at Recital Hall on Thursday, November 20.

UnderTheFunk
11-14-2014, 09:22 PM
Amos's orange bouffant framed a shinier, suspiciously tauter face .[/I]

[angry] So unnecessary.

spark
11-25-2014, 07:44 AM
A bit late to the party, but.. :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlBmyg4-lzg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZFYTUJxa9E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWl7SdJ5wBM

dAmION
11-28-2014, 04:56 AM
I dunno. She seems pretty attached to the synth these days. As much as I hate to say it, I can't imagine her not using the synth effects as a crutch these days.

I don't think she's using them as a crutch, but rather they add another color to her pallet.

berke
11-28-2014, 09:43 PM
[angry] So unnecessary.

It may be unnecessary but it also strikes up an interesting thought. The botox or whatever she had had done was never an issue with the public who are not her core fan base until very recently. Now she looks much more natural and it is more of a conversation strangely. I see it on twitter more, youtube more and also on genereal music forums. I guess in 2005-2007 she had a lot of work done but she still looked like a botoxed version of herself. Now, even if she looks more ''natural'', her face is so puffy you can't even see the bone structure of her face which made her so recognizeable despite all the work until 2009.. I mean I look at the ''A Piano'' interview and that is just unmistakeably Tori Amos, and any frozen face, high eyebrows is a non issue compared to her looks since 2009..

Kala
11-30-2014, 05:49 AM
I don't think she's using them as a crutch, but rather they add another color to her pallet.

I think for many years it did add to the enchantment of her performances. But it's become a bit old hat IMO and I'd love to see and hear her chop away at the Bose and nothing else.

spark
12-01-2014, 11:14 AM
I think the problem is, she rightly understands that she needs to turn around for some songs, otherwise half of the audience only gets to see the back of her wig. That's why for the Sydney Symphony shows, all of the solo songs were played mostly on keyboards.

I also think it's a crutch though, but it's here to stay IMO.

dAmION
12-02-2014, 01:24 AM
I think for many years it did add to the enchantment of her performances. But it's become a bit old hat IMO and I'd love to see and hear her chop away at the Bose and nothing else.


I know its kind of a blasphemy for a Tori fan to say this but, i'm kind of over Tori solely as Uber-pianist I like when she experiments with orchestras and octets and keyboards, it takes away some of what could be a monotonous performance.

InvisibleBK
12-02-2014, 01:11 PM
I know its kind of a blasphemy for a Tori fan to say this but, i'm kind of over Tori solely as Uber-pianist I like when she experiments with orchestras and octets and keyboards, it takes away some of what could be a monotonous performance.

As much as I love Tori's piano playing chops I have to say another major factor in my enjoyment of her music is her willingness to experiment with all kinds of instrumentation. Whether it's the band, an orchestra, a harpsichord, a choir, synths, loops, crazy programming and production like datura or whatever I just really love the adventure. It doesn't always work but it's generally something new and unique for T each time. She's had a solid string, orchestral and now solo tour in recent years so I can only hope for something new, fresh and exciting next time around. I would like to see some other musicians on stage with her next time and it doesn't necessarily have to be the typical band setup.

Dan
12-02-2014, 01:35 PM
I think the problem is, she rightly understands that she needs to turn around for some songs, otherwise half of the audience only gets to see the back of her wig.

I agree, I even said as much in another thread.

Still, I think it would be interesting for her to take the "dueling pianos" concept she mentioned for Beauty of Speed and actually do a tour with two grands: one of them a Bosendorfer, obviously, and the other a dramatically different sounding one, like a Fazioli, for instance. The second piano could replace the keyboard in the stage layout. There would be variation and a new sound for old songs, but it would still be proper piano.

Yo Jupiter
12-02-2014, 05:14 PM
She could also learn to play the guitar and then play a piano and guitar simultaneously.

jk

dAmION
12-03-2014, 05:11 AM
I agree, I even said as much in another thread.

Still, I think it would be interesting for her to take the "dueling pianos" concept she mentioned for Beauty of Speed and actually do a tour with two grands: one of them a Bosendorfer, obviously, and the other a dramatically different sounding one, like a Fazioli, for instance. The second piano could replace the keyboard in the stage layout. There would be variation and a new sound for old songs, but it would still be proper piano.

Maybe even an upright piano.