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ebby
07-21-2010, 01:57 PM
Just read this article in The Guardian: Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/21/arab-guilty-rape-consensual-sex-jew)


A Palestinian man has been convicted of rape after having consensual sex with a woman who had believed him to be a fellow Jew.

Sabbar Kashur, 30, was sentenced to 18 months in prison on Monday after the court ruled that he was guilty of rape by deception. According to the complaint filed by the woman with the Jerusalem district court, the two met in downtown Jerusalem in September 2008 where Kashur, an Arab from East Jerusalem, introduced himself as a Jewish bachelor seeking a serious relationship. The two then had consensual sex in a nearby building before Kashur left.

When she later found out that he was not Jewish but an Arab, she filed a criminal complaint for rape and indecent assault.

Although Kashur was initially charged with rape and indecent assault, this was changed to a charge of rape by deception as part of a plea bargain arrangement.

Handing down the verdict, Tzvi Segal, one of three judges on the case, acknowledged that sex had been consensual but said that although not "a classical rape by force," the woman would not have consented if she had not believed Kashur was Jewish.

The sex therefore was obtained under false pretences, the judges said. "If she hadn't thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious romantic relationship, she would not have cooperated," they added.

That is all kinds of crazy bullshit. Why is this man being accused of rape because of her assumptions and then her subsequent racism?


Segal said: "The court is obliged to protect the public interest from sophisticated, smooth-tongued criminals who can deceive innocent victims at an unbearable price the sanctity of their bodies and souls. When the very basis of trust between human beings drops, especially when the matters at hand are so intimate, sensitive and fateful, the court is required to stand firmly at the side of the victims actual and potential to protect their wellbeing. Otherwise, they will be used, manipulated and misled, while paying only a tolerable and symbolic price."



Wait, what?

Kari
07-21-2010, 02:23 PM
Um, you have a one night stand with someone you barely know, that's your problem. They could be a transsexual for all you know. GTFO.

ebby
07-21-2010, 02:46 PM
It's such utter bullshit. I can't believe any court would come to such a decision, and it makes a complete mockery of a judicial system in my opinion.

Lathan
07-21-2010, 02:49 PM
OMG! Stop the presses! A man lied in order to get into a girl's pants?!

What is the world coming to?

Cunter Fartlett
07-21-2010, 02:52 PM
Jesus fucking Christ. That poor sophisticated, smooth-tongued criminal.

JAE
07-21-2010, 03:20 PM
Fuck, why is the world so STUPID.

Robin Sparkles
07-21-2010, 04:50 PM
The sex therefore was obtained under false pretences, the judges said. "If she hadn't thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious romantic relationship, she would not have cooperated," they added.

Right, whenever I've been looking for a serious romantic relationship, the first thing I do is have sex with men I've known for a few hours in a random building.

Autumn
07-21-2010, 05:02 PM
Gosh, it's a good thing he wasn't underage, too. What would that be called?

Lathan
07-21-2010, 08:37 PM
from HuffPo's commentary (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/21/arab-man-convicted-of-rap_n_654425.html)


Meanwhile, the case has divided other Israeli legal experts. Elkana Laist of the Public Defender's Office told Haaertz the ruling was "paternalistic towards women," and said the Jerusalem District Court had "open[ed] the door to a rape conviction every time a person lies regarding details of his identity . . . that approach is not accepted around the world, either."

Dana Pugach, head of the Noga Center for Victims of Crime, felt differently. "It is a person's right to have sexual relations with a person knowing the facts about those characteristics. I see no difference between impersonating a Jew if you are an Arab and a wealthy pilot when you are penniless, if those are relevant characteristics to the decision to have sex."

Eww. He was poor? RAPE!


I think the ruling is offensive.

Tarendai
07-21-2010, 11:32 PM
Im surprised they didnt charge the woman with indecency for sex before marriage or some other draconian ruling

Cunter Fartlett
07-21-2010, 11:34 PM
Right, whenever I've been looking for a serious romantic relationship, the first thing I do is have sex with men I've known for a few hours in a random building.

Twinsies!!

DarkLuna
07-21-2010, 11:56 PM
Indicted on four counts of rape:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvkTdyXVh3U

toriMODE
07-22-2010, 12:01 AM
The problem with this is that they are exploiting the term rape. It's become so diluted these days.

Tarendai
07-22-2010, 12:53 AM
I was unwillingly inflicted upon by your image, resulting in visual imagery being conjured into my brain of sexual conduct I did not consent to, I demand $13,000 in damages and a minimum term of 3 months.

eednic
07-22-2010, 12:57 AM
Gosh! I feel like I just got fporked in the ear by Gareth Morgan again!

No seriously. What?? Don't a lot of women regret having sex the next day after a night of drunken (or not) debauchery after they realize the man isn't as cute as he was in the club?

Tarendai
07-22-2010, 06:42 PM
I think most men have the same regrets