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    Quote Originally Posted by fox in socks View Post
    once again, what difference does it make? assault rifles were bullshit BEFORE sandy hook. seriously, if it turned out he had 2 glocks and a pipe bomb...so? im still waiting for people to answer their "what if" questions......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarella View Post
    So what's the theory there then? People would rather believe he used 4 hand guns to put 6-8 bullets in 20 kids instead of believing the news got it wrong, or that he brought more than one assault rifle?
    I don't know. I suspect that they think gun-control folks used the initial reporting (that he used the rifle) to justify a ban on them and it turns out he didn't use the rifle after all. Whatever, this fierce debate should've been had after the CO movie theater shooting, but that was election time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlet View Post
    They'll want picture certificate, not a certification of a live picture. And the long form.
    Exactly. That's the thing about conspiracy theorists -- it's never enough. Show them a crime scene photo and they'll want security camera footage. Show them a screen shot of the security camera footage and they'll want the actual video. Show them a clip of the footage and they'll scream that you didn't let them watch the full, unedited thing. Sometimes I think it's a gore porn fetish masquerading as concern.

    We went through this with Obama's birth certificate. It was never enough. People who believe in this shit trust no one, and so they will find foul play in everything that's presented to them.

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    There are so many things that confuse me about the Sandy Hook conspiracy theories, but probably the biggest one is the idea that the US government would NEED TO ORGANISE A SCHOOL SHOOTING. IN AMERICA. It really is like claiming someone wanted a brewery shut down, so they formed a conspiracy to start a piss-up within it.

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    While bad things do happen covertly and whispers and innuendo do bring the truth to light (Watergate, for example), I'd rather be a "sheeple" than live my life paranoid and complicated.

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    The word "sheeple" is odious.
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    It's like Conspiracy Keanu came to life, came directly to this thread, took a massive shit, and died of lulz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by just owls View Post
    OK, Columbo. Can you explain then why the security certificate on that page says it was created on the 14th?
    Ok, great. One down, 4 to go.



    Quote Originally Posted by uncanny hats View Post
    okay:

    If this is a hoax, 1. where have all the children magically been transported to? 2. are we to believe that the parents of the "not-really-dead" children are complicit? If so, at what reward? Just plain ol' stricter gun laws? Parents gave up their kids for stricter gun laws? 3. Why would every sector of law enforcement also be complicit? 4. Why wouldn't the Republicans jump all over this? If this were real, it's easily impeachable. Also, google time stamps are often incorrect. For a while there was one that said @ hadn't been updated since 2000. It happens. Also, what if the funding site hopped on and changed the url at the request of the user? Also, would Project Censored be all over this too?
    1. Idk man
    2. Considering most parents were 'passing the hat' around before "bodies were even cold" (like how emelie parkers dad put up a fundraising page before she was confirmed dead), I think oooodles of $$ would be partial incentive. I personally know one of the guys who was doing the publicity rounds mourning his niece was just elected to City Council in New Canaan.
    3. I imagine it went something like "we'll take it from here" from the higher ups
    4. Fringe repugs/gun nuts are. Are we really operating under the assumption that the highest echelon of Repugs and Dems are actually not working under big bank interests in the end?
    5. Some people, especially people who think they are clever dont really get how the internet works. They are sloppy, sloppy babies. Project Censored is way behind, and anytime they do something Anonymous jumps all over it and it turns into the Streisand effect.


    Re: Actual gun used- look at the medical examiners statement. He clearly stated that "you'd think after all these years I'd know what bullet wounds look like and what caliber they were but if i have to go to court over this, I'll get in trouble" or something to that effect. The authorities near him were telling him to tell the press conf that it was the AR-15. Maybe thats the conspiracy and everything else is just BS. idk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frangipani View Post
    Ok, great. One down, 4 to go.





    1. Idk man
    2. Considering most parents were 'passing the hat' around before "bodies were even cold" (like how emelie parkers dad put up a fundraising page before she was confirmed dead), I think oooodles of $$ would be partial incentive. I personally know one of the guys who was doing the publicity rounds mourning his niece was just elected to City Council in New Canaan.
    3. I imagine it went something like "we'll take it from here" from the higher ups
    4. Fringe repugs/gun nuts are. Are we really operating under the assumption that the highest echelon of Repugs and Dems are actually not working under big bank interests in the end?
    5. Some people, especially people who think they are clever dont really get how the internet works. They are sloppy, sloppy babies. Project Censored is way behind, and anytime they do something Anonymous jumps all over it and it turns into the Streisand effect.


    Re: Actual gun used- look at the medical examiners statement. He clearly stated that "you'd think after all these years I'd know what bullet wounds look like and what caliber they were but if i have to go to court over this, I'll get in trouble" or something to that effect. The authorities near him were telling him to tell the press conf that it was the AR-15. Maybe thats the conspiracy and everything else is just BS. idk!

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    Frangi.

    You seem to be trying to build a framework around this, to make it make sense to you.

    THIS DID NOT MAKE SENSE. It was the insane work of an insane person.

    I know that you like to stir shit, and that can be enjoyable. This isn't enjoyable. This is creepy and disgusting.
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    Frangi - re: question 2

    No amount of money offered would make me even consider giving up my child to anyone. If you're really believing this theory, think harder.

    I hope/believe you're playing devil's advocate or at least just trying to be a pot stirrer. If not try this one on for size. If the government is behind all this and as evil as you think it is, why would they nicely ask parents to kindly give up their kids to implement restrictive gun laws that would make the American people as helpless as babies? Wouldn't it be more like, "We're taking your kids. They will be safe, but breathe a word of this to anyone and we will kill them." The parent's grief would be real. You now have roles for "crisis actors", etc. Easy as hell to make this stuff up, isn't it?

    Here's some questions to mull for you. Assuming the above is true, was the shooter drugged? How exactly was he coerced into killing his mother? Is she not dead either? The teachers and other adults in the school, actually killed or whisked to an undisclosed location too? Were their families told the same essential thing the children's families were threatened with in my scenario? Were all those tiny coffins filled with rocks?

    Frankly I think all the tiny heads that believe this stuff are filled with rocks, dryer lint, and dust bunnies. It's sure to be some government plot. Most likely it has to do with the coming invasion of aliens that will bring on a pandemic certain to cause the collapse of the economy, EF5 tornadoes nationwide, nuclear war, solar storms, asteroid hits, the New World Order, category 6 hurricanes, and disruption of the internet. You do have your bunker supplied and ready, right? Don't forget your guns.
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    devils advocate conspiracy me would like to think no kids died at all. Parents were only shown pictures of their children. As a parent, that would not be acceptable to me.

    ANYWHO- did someone say hurricane? YEAH THAT LOOKS TOTALLY NATURAL




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    Quote Originally Posted by Frangipani View Post
    devils advocate conspiracy me would like to think no kids died at all. Parents were only shown pictures of their children.
    Wut.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2314785.html

    At Jack's Christian service, hymns rang out from inside the funeral home, where the boy lay in an open casket in the Giants' star wide receiver Victor Cruz's No. 80 jersey.
    And http://blogs.forward.com/forward-thi...zners-killing/

    Veronique told me that Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy visited her in the funeral home, and she brought him to see Noah’s open casket. I asked her why it was important for her and for the governor to see Noah’s body. “I needed it to have a face for him,” she said. “If there is ever a piece of legislation that comes across his desk, I needed it to be real for him.”

    Newtown's only undertaker opens up about the 'week from hell'
    Daniel Honan, the director of Honan Funeral Home, has never had so much work. He has hired 25 to 30 new staffers to help handle the funerals of the 11 grade-school victims he must soon bury.

    Of course, the undertaker could be lying.

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    I was going off of earlier articles http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/12...ef=mostpopular

    In a tearful interview, he said the rounds used were so powerful that they ripped through the school's walls and left several holes in his daughter's car outside in the parking lot.

    "They told me, 'You can't see (the body),'"
    And also the medical examiner who told the press that they were shown photos of the bodies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum 509 View Post
    Wut.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2314785.html



    And http://blogs.forward.com/forward-thi...zners-killing/




    Newtown's only undertaker opens up about the 'week from hell'
    Daniel Honan, the director of Honan Funeral Home, has never had so much work. He has hired 25 to 30 new staffers to help handle the funerals of the 11 grade-school victims he must soon bury.

    Of course, the undertaker could be lying.
    From these links and others, I can't imagine how hard it was for the families of the victims. I personally don't ever need to see pictures as evidence. Having been through grief myself (though nowhere near as traumatic as these families), I know what it looks and feels like. Ben Wheeler's parents, interviewed by Rachel Maddow the other night, is more than "proofy" enough for me, that they have gone through something truly horrendous and aren't just "acting". They're still not nearly anywhere near okay and as was pointed out by others on this board, grief isn't just crying and looking sad. It takes so many forms and is an unpredictable and dark emotional roller coaster ride, even when it isn't as unexpected and shocking as this event was. I'm not crying about frang's post. It just seems unfathomable to me that someone would make light of this. Frang blithely inferring that the parents and families of these victims are a bunch of mercenary moochers and liars and accusing them of trying to make a buck off of their dead children is just beyond the pale.

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