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Thread: How Low Can We Go? The President Donald Trump Thread, I guess. :(

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    Who knows what happens next, but tonight I will pour myself a gin and tonic, grab some olives and watch Fox News.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volta View Post
    ^Oh it would have been awful, horrible, and nasty mean.. but they could have probably gotten the 216 they needed. And most of these jerks are awful, horrible, nasty mean people. anyway, who say they're Christians and then go about hurting poor people for their own benefit (a fundamental no no to any Christian).

    I'm just hoping and praying they won't go that route.. that somewhere deep down this is over and you're right and Trump, or whomever, actually cares about the millions who would lose,, etc. But the Freedom Caucus wanted to get rid of so much essential benefits anyway.. just seems like the smart move would have been to just get rid of ACA, then maybe build something new from there.. and then not do shit.
    But if they take it away (the non-freedom caucus people), then THEY are the people who took it away. They want it gone, just not to pull the trigger PERSONALLY. I'm only surprised they didn't hot potato it over to the Senate. The Freedom Caucus has to get re-elected too. Maybe they're mostly in the most red, the most ignorant districts, but they're not an unstoppable force. We are, however, an immovable object.

    NONE of the republicans against UHC really care about the uninsured out of moral or ethical reasons. It's optics for re-election ONLY. So a straight repeal (and a repeal/replace that was worse than ACA) would have meant a bloodbath in 2018. Blue senate, blue House. Individuals might remain, but the GOP would be done for a very long time. They might have made SOME of their base more devoted, but that's maybe 15% of the population. Maybe. The polls were all saying any R voting for this bill (which at least in theory was better than a straight repeal) was out in 2018, 2020, 2022.

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    There was a story last night in the NYT that said Ryan left the Hill and his car was playing Papa Roach. It was instantly made fun of and I don't know for sure that it was actually true. I mean, the story said it, but I don't know if he really was playing it or if it was sarcasm. Anyway, in response:

    @paparoach
    When we feel defeated we listen to Paul Ryan.


    I'm enjoying a brief moment of victory and celebration. And it's clear all of us lefties who have been near-catatonic since November are enjoying a break.





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    Someone edited the NYT article to add the Papa Roach bit, but nonetheless.

    More lolz: Democrats introduce the Mar-A-Lago act:


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    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/03/...red-trump.html

    During an appearance on MNSNBC, Nance said, "At the end of this program, I’m sure Brian Williams will show up in someone’s intelligence product, but that is not collection. That will not validate or give you cover for the charge that you were wiretapped. There was no wiretapping going on here, and there certainly wasn’t this report of intelligence product with Donald Trump’s name on it is just about exactly what we would expect to see in everything. Barack Obama probably has about 20,000 references in our intel pd and all the rest of our products there too. But I think he is doing this to give him cover, and I think he’s just disqualified himself from being involved in any investigation.”

    What Rep. Nunes did was actively engage in potentially leaking classified information to help Donald Trump potentially cover-up any crimes that occurred during the presidential campaign. Devin Nunes has disqualified himself and made a case for why there must be an independent investigation into the Trump/Russia scandal.
    These guys are Tony Soprano-style mobsters. Our best bet is to hope that decent people call them on their bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
    Now that repeal and replace is dead, they have Gorsuch remaining as the only thing making them stay tied to Trump. If they lose the SC nomination...

    Haven't we already lost the SC nomination?

    If the Dems don't grow a backbone, we have no hope right now of avoiding this unfair pick for Supreme Court Justice. It seems like we just keep going along to get along. This needs to stop.

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    Rumors today: Flynn may have flipped to the FBI, Reince might be out soon - taking the blame for the health care fiasco, Trump (and/ or Bannon... hard to tell) wants Ryan out - taking the blame for the health care fiasco.

    Rumors. Speculation. Next week is going to be just as bananas as this one.

    Guys, I'm so tired. Even taking breaks, even with some "quiet" days... I don't have the strength for 46 more months of this.

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